we know that Ottoman impire was destroyed due to two goup,
the one of them is so called Young Turkish in Turkey,top leader is Ataturk a albanian-mason and Wahhabis sect in arabi,top leader Abdul Wahhabi-a devil of jew...masons using those two tools realized to destroy Ottoman impire from inside of it,Ottoman was destroyed from inside and not outside...
Thanks for the excellent comment. This is very valuable information. And you may be right, I may be wrong. I fully accept that. It's unfortunate that you think I am committed to "discredit anyone that does not fit into [my] scheme of ideas." I simply think the fact that Ibn Taymiyyah hailed from Harran, the great capital of the anthropomorphic doctrine, which, as scholars have noted, is the only significant place outside of the Jewish Kabbalah where this ideas has found such specific elaboration, is intriguing, to say the least.
Especially since those who in modern times have attempted to revive his reputation belonged to organizations that claimed to derive originally from these same Harranians (the Sabians).
My article is entirely speculative. I'm merely trying to relay the coincidences. Whichever way it may be, the fact is that Ibn Taymiyyah was wayward in his anthropomorphism, and the modern day "Salafi" are now following him in the same error, despite all their proud claims of orthodoxy.
Thanks again,
David Livingstone
Taken from encyclopedia of Islamic Doctrine vol 1 (Beliefs). (As-sunna Foundation of America)
The Sources of Ibn taymiyya's Ideas
The resemblance of Kawthari's censure of ibn taymiyya to ibn al-jawzi's censure of the anthropomorphizing hanbalis of his time is striking. it comes as no surprise, therefore, that ibn taymiyyah in fact took his own materials from a related group. As kawthari says, "Ibn taymiyya replicates part and parcel what is found in Uthman ibn Said al-Darimi's al-Radd ala al-jahmiyya, and the kitab al sunna attributed to Abd Allah ibn ahmad ibn hanbal, and ibn khuzayma's al-tawhid wa sifat al-rabb." Here is a look at these three of ibn taymiyyas sources
Uthman Ibn Said al-Darimi al-sajzi
He wrote his books against Bishr al-marisi and the jahmiyya at large. In his fervor to refute their excessively figurative interpretations, he fell into the opposite extreme of anthropomorphism. One also wonders why ibn taymiyya would take up arguments originally meant for jahmis, who were heretics, and redirect them to the asharis, who are the sunni. Here some examples of what his book al-naqd ala al-jahmiyya (The critiqueof the jahmis) contains:
The living, the self-subsistent, does what He wills, moves if He so wills, descends and ascends if He wills, collects and spreads and rises and sits if He wills, for the distinguishing mark between the leaving and the dead is movement: every living thing moves without fail, and every dead thing is immobile with out fail. (p.20 of kitab al-naqd ala al-ahmiyyah -Cairo, 1361/1942)
In this phrase the author has compared Allah to every living thing, although nothing is like Him whatsoever.
Those who object claim that Allah has no limit, no boundary, and no end, and this is the principle upon which Jahm has built all of his heresy and from which he has carved his falsehoods; these are statements that we have never heard anyone say before him.... Allah certainly has a limit... and so has His place, for He is on His throne above the heavens, and these are two limits. Any person who declares that Allah has a limit and that His place has limit, is more knowledgable than the jahmis. (p.23)
In these statements it is seen that al-darimi considers Imam al-shafii a jahmi, since al-shafii explicitly stated,
Know that limit and finiteness do not apply to Allah. (al-shafii, al-fiqh al-akbar fi al-tawhid li al-imam abi abd allah muhammad ibn idris al-shafii, 1st ed. (Al-azbakiyya, cairo: al-matba al-adabiyya, 1324/1906 or 1907) p.8 The original manuscript of this work is kept at the zahiriyya library in Damascus, MS. #Q-2(3)) Those who revived the views of al-darimi in later times, like ibn taymiyyah and in modern times, like those who call themselves "Salafis," could not be farther from the doctrine of the true salaf.
Although today's "Salafis" do not show the same openness as al-darimi in ascribing limits to the Creator, this belief is coushed in their repeated denial that Allah is everywhere. Wahhabis and "Salafis" believe that the only alternative to the claim that "Allah is in every placce" is their claim that "He is in one place only; Above His throne."
Each claim is as worthless as the other since both ascribe spatial location to Allah, Exalted Is He above anything they may claim. Both are equally false in devising for Him dispersion in an infinity of places, and limitation in a single place.
There is no connection to satanism or the occult as suggested by David Livingstone who wants to discredit anyone that does not fit into his scheme of ideas.
There is no perfect scholar who has everything right, even the great scholars of Islam; Hanafi, Hanbali, Shafi and Maliki asked their students and followers to not follow them where they can be proven wrong.
Great review, Mr. Livingstone. I haven't read this book, but from the DaVinci Code and Angels & Demons, it's pretty clear what Brown's agenda is. There are so many writers and speakers today, from Michael Tsarion and Jordan Maxwell to David Wilcock, trying very hard to "promote" the bible by recasting it in masonic/kabbalistic terms. If you haven't been watching the TV show "Lost," they have done so to perfection.
I wish you would get invited to do more interviews. It's too bad most of the internet radio hosts are gnostics, end-times Christians or supposed "anti-masons" while also being cheerleaders for free trade and weak government, which is the whole purpose of masonry. It's pretty amazing how there's so much "anti-masonic" fervor today by people who worship masonic ideals. Masons have managed to throw themselves into the proverbial "briar patch" and seem to be getting away with it.
Are you familiar with Culture Wars magazine? If not, you should definitely check it out. The publisher (E. Michael Jones) has a couple of fantastic books like "Libido Dominandi" and "The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit". Many magazine articles and interviews at culturewars.com, if you're interested. If you can suspend judgement on Catholicism, you'll find a lot of interesting historical, political and cultural analysis.
Bring peace to this innocent state-country? seperate it from both india and pakistan,those countries should remove themselves from Kashmir and leave these peaceful people alone this is a part of the world i would love to see the British Goverment sort out hopefully one day they will ? peace to innocent Kashmiris throughout the world.
I think I need another profound Bible reading to fully understand all the nuances you tried to share to us here. Jesus birth, life and death were interpreted in so many ways in the last two thousand years, how do we know what's the right one?
Oh boy, apparently some Oktar fanatics and CIA puppet Fethullah's followers (David Villa acting as an academic with very basic grammar errors probably a Turkish tool living in the U.S.) came upon to spread their typical misinformation-disinformation tactics.
Shame this CIA puppet (Fethullah) still manages to fool many honest people and weaken the secular foundations of modern Turkish republic via 'so called moderately islamic' AKP party and of course via CIA and other western regimes.
As a Turk I want to congratulate the author for a precise and indebt research and presentation of the Gulen movement in my country Turkiye and other Turkish countries in eurasia. Naive muslims are been played by this ideologially driven movement which is basically an organization and web of people used by and for the masonic ambitions.
Mr. Livingstone, I've been reconnecting with your work lately after hearing you on Red Ice a couple years ago. Everything is just absolutely fantastic – it's wonderful to see someone who is simultaneously so down-to-earth and informed about current geopolitics, yet able to trace ideologies back to their earliest roots.
On this article and comment, I would also have to disagree that Paul was a gnostic. I have recently been looking into Marcion, an early Christian heretic who was a "Paulite," and had a thriving movement that split the bible into the "just" god of the Judaics and the "good" God of Jesus, Luke and Paul. This isn't an apocryphal gospel – Marcion's work has been lost, but is available through contemporary criticism and early 20th century scholarship. I'd really recommend looking into Marcion if you havent – there's a lot that aligns very closely with subjects I've heard you discuss, and Marcion's "correct" Christian doctrine is in many ways closer to Islam than the Roman church.
von Harnack's essay from "History of Dogma" sheds some light on the difference between Paul, the gnostics and the Romans, and the historical errors in comingling Paul with gnosticism.
To help educate Christians.
Was Jesus born on December 25? There is no evidence for this date. So then, who decided that Jesus' birth would be celebrated on that date? The early Christian church did not celebrate Jesus' birth. It wasn't until A.D. 440 that the church officially proclaimed December 25 as the birth of Christ. This was not based on any religious evidence but on a pagan feast. Saturnalia was a tradition inherited by the Roman pagans from an earlier Babylonian priesthood. December 25 was used as a celebration of the birthday of the sun god. It was observed near the winter solstice.
The apostles in the Bible predicted that some Christians would adopt pagan beliefs to enable them to make their religion more palatable to the pagans around them. Therefore, some scholars think the church chose the date of this pagan celebration to interest them in Christianity. The pagans were already used to celebrating on this date.
The Bible itself tells us that December 25 is an unlikely date for His birth. Palestine is very cold in December. It was much too cold to ask everyone to travel to the city of their fathers to register for taxes. Also the shepherds were in the fields (Luke 2:8-12). Shepherds were not in the fields in the winter time. They are in the fields early in March until early October. This would place Jesus' birth in the spring or early fall. It is also known that Jesus lived for 33.5 years and died at the feast of the Passover, which is at Easter time. He must therefore have been born six months the other side of Easter - making the date around the September/October time frames.
These are just a few of the convincing proofs that Jesus was born sometime in the early autumn, not in the dead of winter when the pagans observed, and still celebrate, the birth of Nimrod.
Faced with these historical facts, and God's clear instruction about mixing pagan practices with worship of Him, we can conclude only that Jesus would not keep Christmas today. Christmas is, in fact, an affront to Him.
Since the teaching of Jesus was being corrupted by mans, we must go back to the original teach of Jesus in Qur’an
Sorry for my bad english but belive me one! Ther still Muslims addictet to the medhabs the old Kaliphates and fighting thes Wahabi Bastards! We even work on it to Join Forces whit our Shia brothers!!!
They spred this Extremist BS but inshallah Allah s.w.t will give us Victory! These Invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq a have a twice positiv effect! The moderatet medhab Muslims can rise also not only the wahabi!!!
Look at the islamic army in iraq or the hamas in iraq they fight the Wahabis and Al Qaida and rising! But the Fight is hard and Hamas in Palastin payed it well to split from the muslim brotherhood and join forces whit Iran as you see in gaza now!!! Our Shia Brothers in lebanon of Hezbollah are doing well also!!!
The world is on the shoulders of thes brave people!!!! They fight the us army the wahabis the zionsts and several other nations!!! This is the greatest challang for the Islamic Ummah and the few Muslims thats left! Hope the allmighty dont let the extremists win because we muslims are on the edge really of ben destroyed by these wahabi cia zionist bastards!!!
I read comments here and see that most are based on baseless rumors and opinions.. Make some research on Fethullah Gulen first before jumping to conclusions.
And I won't pretend to know the answer. But the powers that be have successfully played the "Islamic fundamentalism" card for the last 30 years, since the invasion of Afghanistan. They had no fear of igniting a wider spread of this fundamentalism. There is no "blowback". This seems a very dangerous game to play, but they are so confident of their ability to manipulate this so-called radicalism for their own ends, that they do so without seeming concern for the extent of its spread or degree of violence.
Hi David,
The popular belief is that USA invaded Iraq to get the oil. What if it is not the case? Do you think USA invasion of Irak and subsequently the execution of Saddam was merely a way to let Islamic Extremism expand in the region?
The reason why I am asking this question is that 8 years after invading Afghanistan, the USA "failed" to eradicate the Fundamentalists, in fact, 8 years later, they are even stronger, and were able to invade Pakistan!!!! And now that Saddam is no longer here to fight these extremists, I am just wondering what would happen in the entire region when the extremists take over. Will they be still backed by the Illuminati to continue their invasion of the world? Or will all funding and weapon supplies cease, once the Region is pushed way back into the dark ages?
Hafidhh Ibn Kathir writes: when the Kuffar of Makkah had a meeting concerning the Prophet Sallal laho alihi wasalam, an old man came claiming
“I am a Najdi, what ever you want to know, I will be helpful”. This Najdi Shaykh then gave his view against the Prophet (Sallallahu’ aliahi wa sallam), through out the meeting.
[Tareekh Ibn Kathir. Volume 4]
The Prophet [May Allah bless Him and grant Him peace] stated: I fear from the Najdi’s.
[Bukhari Chapter on Jihad]
The Prophet [May Allah bless Him and grant Him peace] stated: That the Fitnah will emerge from the east. [Bukhari, Kitab-ul-Fitnah]
Abdullah Ibn Umar narrates:
The Prophet [May Allah bless Him and grant Him peace] made Du’a for Syria and Yemen, some people asked him: “Ya Rasoolallah (Sallallahu’ aliahi wa sallam) pray for Najd.” The Prophet [May Allah bless Him and grant Him peace] again repeated Dua for Syria and Yemen. They again requested for Najd. Upon the third time the Prophet [May Allah bless Him and grant Him peace] said: “There will be earthquakes there, tribulations will emerge there and a horn of Shaytan will emerge from there”. [Bukhari, Kitabul Fitan]
The brother of Muhammad bin Abdul Wahab al Najdi, Shaykh Sulaiman bin Abdul Wahab, said about his brother, “The horn of Shaytan which the Prophet (Sallallahu’ aliahi wa sallam) referred to is you.”
Please for more info about mohammed abdul wahhab's malicious designs on the muslims read a book called 'fitnat al wahhabiyya' co-authored by abdul wahhab's own brother and father,Suleiman Abdul Wahhab and co.
Mumbai attacks and Lahore attacks on Sri Lankan Cricket Team done by the same team none but Mossad in order to escalate region arms voracity so we all can carry on Zionists-Apocalyptic-Agenda rather than giving relieve to our poors and needy..India and Israel are halluci-Nations http://karachi-kool.blogspot.com/2009/08/israel-and-india-are-halluci-na...
we know that Ottoman impire was destroyed due to two goup,
the one of them is so called Young Turkish in Turkey,top leader is Ataturk a albanian-mason and Wahhabis sect in arabi,top leader Abdul Wahhabi-a devil of jew...masons using those two tools realized to destroy Ottoman impire from inside of it,Ottoman was destroyed from inside and not outside...
Thanks for the excellent comment. This is very valuable information. And you may be right, I may be wrong. I fully accept that. It's unfortunate that you think I am committed to "discredit anyone that does not fit into [my] scheme of ideas." I simply think the fact that Ibn Taymiyyah hailed from Harran, the great capital of the anthropomorphic doctrine, which, as scholars have noted, is the only significant place outside of the Jewish Kabbalah where this ideas has found such specific elaboration, is intriguing, to say the least.
Especially since those who in modern times have attempted to revive his reputation belonged to organizations that claimed to derive originally from these same Harranians (the Sabians).
My article is entirely speculative. I'm merely trying to relay the coincidences. Whichever way it may be, the fact is that Ibn Taymiyyah was wayward in his anthropomorphism, and the modern day "Salafi" are now following him in the same error, despite all their proud claims of orthodoxy.
Thanks again,
David Livingstone
Taken from encyclopedia of Islamic Doctrine vol 1 (Beliefs). (As-sunna Foundation of America)
The Sources of Ibn taymiyya's Ideas
The resemblance of Kawthari's censure of ibn taymiyya to ibn al-jawzi's censure of the anthropomorphizing hanbalis of his time is striking. it comes as no surprise, therefore, that ibn taymiyyah in fact took his own materials from a related group. As kawthari says, "Ibn taymiyya replicates part and parcel what is found in Uthman ibn Said al-Darimi's al-Radd ala al-jahmiyya, and the kitab al sunna attributed to Abd Allah ibn ahmad ibn hanbal, and ibn khuzayma's al-tawhid wa sifat al-rabb." Here is a look at these three of ibn taymiyyas sources
Uthman Ibn Said al-Darimi al-sajzi
He wrote his books against Bishr al-marisi and the jahmiyya at large. In his fervor to refute their excessively figurative interpretations, he fell into the opposite extreme of anthropomorphism. One also wonders why ibn taymiyya would take up arguments originally meant for jahmis, who were heretics, and redirect them to the asharis, who are the sunni. Here some examples of what his book al-naqd ala al-jahmiyya (The critiqueof the jahmis) contains:
The living, the self-subsistent, does what He wills, moves if He so wills, descends and ascends if He wills, collects and spreads and rises and sits if He wills, for the distinguishing mark between the leaving and the dead is movement: every living thing moves without fail, and every dead thing is immobile with out fail. (p.20 of kitab al-naqd ala al-ahmiyyah -Cairo, 1361/1942)
In this phrase the author has compared Allah to every living thing, although nothing is like Him whatsoever.
Those who object claim that Allah has no limit, no boundary, and no end, and this is the principle upon which Jahm has built all of his heresy and from which he has carved his falsehoods; these are statements that we have never heard anyone say before him.... Allah certainly has a limit... and so has His place, for He is on His throne above the heavens, and these are two limits. Any person who declares that Allah has a limit and that His place has limit, is more knowledgable than the jahmis. (p.23)
In these statements it is seen that al-darimi considers Imam al-shafii a jahmi, since al-shafii explicitly stated,
Know that limit and finiteness do not apply to Allah. (al-shafii, al-fiqh al-akbar fi al-tawhid li al-imam abi abd allah muhammad ibn idris al-shafii, 1st ed. (Al-azbakiyya, cairo: al-matba al-adabiyya, 1324/1906 or 1907) p.8 The original manuscript of this work is kept at the zahiriyya library in Damascus, MS. #Q-2(3)) Those who revived the views of al-darimi in later times, like ibn taymiyyah and in modern times, like those who call themselves "Salafis," could not be farther from the doctrine of the true salaf.
Although today's "Salafis" do not show the same openness as al-darimi in ascribing limits to the Creator, this belief is coushed in their repeated denial that Allah is everywhere. Wahhabis and "Salafis" believe that the only alternative to the claim that "Allah is in every placce" is their claim that "He is in one place only; Above His throne."
Each claim is as worthless as the other since both ascribe spatial location to Allah, Exalted Is He above anything they may claim. Both are equally false in devising for Him dispersion in an infinity of places, and limitation in a single place.
There is no connection to satanism or the occult as suggested by David Livingstone who wants to discredit anyone that does not fit into his scheme of ideas.
There is no perfect scholar who has everything right, even the great scholars of Islam; Hanafi, Hanbali, Shafi and Maliki asked their students and followers to not follow them where they can be proven wrong.
In reply to myself, I would also recommend the fascinating new document from the vatican comparing "New Age" spirituality to Christianity. Pretty profound stuff, imho:
http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/interelg/documents...
Great review, Mr. Livingstone. I haven't read this book, but from the DaVinci Code and Angels & Demons, it's pretty clear what Brown's agenda is. There are so many writers and speakers today, from Michael Tsarion and Jordan Maxwell to David Wilcock, trying very hard to "promote" the bible by recasting it in masonic/kabbalistic terms. If you haven't been watching the TV show "Lost," they have done so to perfection.
I wish you would get invited to do more interviews. It's too bad most of the internet radio hosts are gnostics, end-times Christians or supposed "anti-masons" while also being cheerleaders for free trade and weak government, which is the whole purpose of masonry. It's pretty amazing how there's so much "anti-masonic" fervor today by people who worship masonic ideals. Masons have managed to throw themselves into the proverbial "briar patch" and seem to be getting away with it.
Are you familiar with Culture Wars magazine? If not, you should definitely check it out. The publisher (E. Michael Jones) has a couple of fantastic books like "Libido Dominandi" and "The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit". Many magazine articles and interviews at culturewars.com, if you're interested. If you can suspend judgement on Catholicism, you'll find a lot of interesting historical, political and cultural analysis.
She works for the Armenian lobby.
Bring peace to this innocent state-country? seperate it from both india and pakistan,those countries should remove themselves from Kashmir and leave these peaceful people alone this is a part of the world i would love to see the British Goverment sort out hopefully one day they will ? peace to innocent Kashmiris throughout the world.
I think I need another profound Bible reading to fully understand all the nuances you tried to share to us here. Jesus birth, life and death were interpreted in so many ways in the last two thousand years, how do we know what's the right one?
Check out the below article that clearly shows how these guys lie about the facts and manipulate the facts.
http://fethullahgulenforum.org/articles/10/fethullah-gulen-s-grand-ambit...
Oh boy, apparently some Oktar fanatics and CIA puppet Fethullah's followers (David Villa acting as an academic with very basic grammar errors probably a Turkish tool living in the U.S.) came upon to spread their typical misinformation-disinformation tactics.
Shame this CIA puppet (Fethullah) still manages to fool many honest people and weaken the secular foundations of modern Turkish republic via 'so called moderately islamic' AKP party and of course via CIA and other western regimes.
Great job, Mr. Livingstone.
Hilarious - thanks for a great giggle, shame about the reality-break but you can't have everything.
As a Turk I want to congratulate the author for a precise and indebt research and presentation of the Gulen movement in my country Turkiye and other Turkish countries in eurasia. Naive muslims are been played by this ideologially driven movement which is basically an organization and web of people used by and for the masonic ambitions.
Pls listen to the information at the below link to better undersant how the muslim people, incuding my Turkish bretheren are played with:
http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2009/01jan/RICR-090122-SUB.html
True Islam, as conveyed by Adam, Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammed (peace be upon them) is out there for the sincere.
www.WhatsIslam.com
www.QuranMiracles.com
www.911Bible.com
www.AllahsQuran.com
www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLroyYtbf1o
May The God guide us into wisdom and truth, ameen.
This time, 2 years too late!
I even wrote an article with the same premise:
http://www.opednews.com/articles/The-Ron-Paul-Deception-by-Dick-Thomson-...
Only 7 months later…
Mr. Livingstone, I've been reconnecting with your work lately after hearing you on Red Ice a couple years ago. Everything is just absolutely fantastic – it's wonderful to see someone who is simultaneously so down-to-earth and informed about current geopolitics, yet able to trace ideologies back to their earliest roots.
On this article and comment, I would also have to disagree that Paul was a gnostic. I have recently been looking into Marcion, an early Christian heretic who was a "Paulite," and had a thriving movement that split the bible into the "just" god of the Judaics and the "good" God of Jesus, Luke and Paul. This isn't an apocryphal gospel – Marcion's work has been lost, but is available through contemporary criticism and early 20th century scholarship. I'd really recommend looking into Marcion if you havent – there's a lot that aligns very closely with subjects I've heard you discuss, and Marcion's "correct" Christian doctrine is in many ways closer to Islam than the Roman church.
Take a look at the Marcionite Library:
http://webspace.webring.com/people/ou/um_6968/Library.html
von Harnack's essay from "History of Dogma" sheds some light on the difference between Paul, the gnostics and the Romans, and the historical errors in comingling Paul with gnosticism.
To help educate Christians.
Was Jesus born on December 25? There is no evidence for this date. So then, who decided that Jesus' birth would be celebrated on that date? The early Christian church did not celebrate Jesus' birth. It wasn't until A.D. 440 that the church officially proclaimed December 25 as the birth of Christ. This was not based on any religious evidence but on a pagan feast. Saturnalia was a tradition inherited by the Roman pagans from an earlier Babylonian priesthood. December 25 was used as a celebration of the birthday of the sun god. It was observed near the winter solstice.
The apostles in the Bible predicted that some Christians would adopt pagan beliefs to enable them to make their religion more palatable to the pagans around them. Therefore, some scholars think the church chose the date of this pagan celebration to interest them in Christianity. The pagans were already used to celebrating on this date.
The Bible itself tells us that December 25 is an unlikely date for His birth. Palestine is very cold in December. It was much too cold to ask everyone to travel to the city of their fathers to register for taxes. Also the shepherds were in the fields (Luke 2:8-12). Shepherds were not in the fields in the winter time. They are in the fields early in March until early October. This would place Jesus' birth in the spring or early fall. It is also known that Jesus lived for 33.5 years and died at the feast of the Passover, which is at Easter time. He must therefore have been born six months the other side of Easter - making the date around the September/October time frames.
These are just a few of the convincing proofs that Jesus was born sometime in the early autumn, not in the dead of winter when the pagans observed, and still celebrate, the birth of Nimrod.
Faced with these historical facts, and God's clear instruction about mixing pagan practices with worship of Him, we can conclude only that Jesus would not keep Christmas today. Christmas is, in fact, an affront to Him.
Since the teaching of Jesus was being corrupted by mans, we must go back to the original teach of Jesus in Qur’an
Selam Alejkum and Peace to you!
Sorry for my bad english but belive me one! Ther still Muslims addictet to the medhabs the old Kaliphates and fighting thes Wahabi Bastards! We even work on it to Join Forces whit our Shia brothers!!!
They spred this Extremist BS but inshallah Allah s.w.t will give us Victory! These Invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq a have a twice positiv effect! The moderatet medhab Muslims can rise also not only the wahabi!!!
Look at the islamic army in iraq or the hamas in iraq they fight the Wahabis and Al Qaida and rising! But the Fight is hard and Hamas in Palastin payed it well to split from the muslim brotherhood and join forces whit Iran as you see in gaza now!!! Our Shia Brothers in lebanon of Hezbollah are doing well also!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lM_IjlSTjTU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDF-d9Mt6Dk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IFSbyKdgcM
The world is on the shoulders of thes brave people!!!! They fight the us army the wahabis the zionsts and several other nations!!! This is the greatest challang for the Islamic Ummah and the few Muslims thats left! Hope the allmighty dont let the extremists win because we muslims are on the edge really of ben destroyed by these wahabi cia zionist bastards!!!
Peace and Love may God bless you!!!!
I read comments here and see that most are based on baseless rumors and opinions.. Make some research on Fethullah Gulen first before jumping to conclusions.
A few websites to get more info - http://www.guleninstitute.org
Article appeared in New York Times - http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/18/world/europe/18iht-19oxan-Turkishpreac...
Sibel Edmonds Deposition, 8/8/09 - Part 4 of 5
And I won't pretend to know the answer. But the powers that be have successfully played the "Islamic fundamentalism" card for the last 30 years, since the invasion of Afghanistan. They had no fear of igniting a wider spread of this fundamentalism. There is no "blowback". This seems a very dangerous game to play, but they are so confident of their ability to manipulate this so-called radicalism for their own ends, that they do so without seeming concern for the extent of its spread or degree of violence.
I am sorry i read this article...What a shame for this web site...You are publishing lies of lies of lies..
Hi David,
The popular belief is that USA invaded Iraq to get the oil. What if it is not the case? Do you think USA invasion of Irak and subsequently the execution of Saddam was merely a way to let Islamic Extremism expand in the region?
The reason why I am asking this question is that 8 years after invading Afghanistan, the USA "failed" to eradicate the Fundamentalists, in fact, 8 years later, they are even stronger, and were able to invade Pakistan!!!! And now that Saddam is no longer here to fight these extremists, I am just wondering what would happen in the entire region when the extremists take over. Will they be still backed by the Illuminati to continue their invasion of the world? Or will all funding and weapon supplies cease, once the Region is pushed way back into the dark ages?
Actually he was an agent of Shaitaan.
Shaytan came in the form of the Najdi Shaykh
Hafidhh Ibn Kathir writes: when the Kuffar of Makkah had a meeting concerning the Prophet Sallal laho alihi wasalam, an old man came claiming
“I am a Najdi, what ever you want to know, I will be helpful”. This Najdi Shaykh then gave his view against the Prophet (Sallallahu’ aliahi wa sallam), through out the meeting.
[Tareekh Ibn Kathir. Volume 4]
The Prophet [May Allah bless Him and grant Him peace] stated: I fear from the Najdi’s.
[Bukhari Chapter on Jihad]
The Prophet [May Allah bless Him and grant Him peace] stated: That the Fitnah will emerge from the east. [Bukhari, Kitab-ul-Fitnah]
Abdullah Ibn Umar narrates:
The Prophet [May Allah bless Him and grant Him peace] made Du’a for Syria and Yemen, some people asked him: “Ya Rasoolallah (Sallallahu’ aliahi wa sallam) pray for Najd.” The Prophet [May Allah bless Him and grant Him peace] again repeated Dua for Syria and Yemen. They again requested for Najd. Upon the third time the Prophet [May Allah bless Him and grant Him peace] said: “There will be earthquakes there, tribulations will emerge there and a horn of Shaytan will emerge from there”. [Bukhari, Kitabul Fitan]
The brother of Muhammad bin Abdul Wahab al Najdi, Shaykh Sulaiman bin Abdul Wahab, said about his brother, “The horn of Shaytan which the Prophet (Sallallahu’ aliahi wa sallam) referred to is you.”
[Sawaa’iqul Ilahiya]
Please for more info about mohammed abdul wahhab's malicious designs on the muslims read a book called 'fitnat al wahhabiyya' co-authored by abdul wahhab's own brother and father,Suleiman Abdul Wahhab and co.
Mumbai attacks and Lahore attacks on Sri Lankan Cricket Team done by the same team none but Mossad in order to escalate region arms voracity so we all can carry on Zionists-Apocalyptic-Agenda rather than giving relieve to our poors and needy..India and Israel are halluci-Nations
http://karachi-kool.blogspot.com/2009/08/israel-and-india-are-halluci-na...
Thanks for that. I just embedded the 5 videos of her testimony here:
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4
Part 5